Comments on: Firing Intention http://catskillcottageseed.com/2008/11/13/firing-intention/ Positioning within the Imaginal Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:40:45 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: How Preparing Ones Intentionality Facilitates Positive Expectations Which Makes For Good Results In Divination http://catskillcottageseed.com/2008/11/13/firing-intention/comment-page-1/#comment-8265 How Preparing Ones Intentionality Facilitates Positive Expectations Which Makes For Good Results In Divination Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:37:34 +0000 http://catskillcottageseed.com/?p=869#comment-8265 [...] leaves us with the question of preparing ones intentionality. The poet Charles Olson shares a fascinating African hunting ritual that prepares a tribesman to find success in the hunt. “One draws a ‘picture’ on a bare [...] [...] leaves us with the question of preparing ones intentionality. The poet Charles Olson shares a fascinating African hunting ritual that prepares a tribesman to find success in the hunt. “One draws a ‘picture’ on a bare [...]

]]> By: Richard Reeve http://catskillcottageseed.com/2008/11/13/firing-intention/comment-page-1/#comment-147 Richard Reeve Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:53:03 +0000 http://catskillcottageseed.com/?p=869#comment-147 "You can say what ever is part of what is sought to be done." It's a creative dilemma, and one I've experienced. In all the enthusiam of a new vision, I've spent all the energy load that comes with the vision shouting from the mountain ""I've got a vision, I've got a vision" onyl to find down the road, that spilling of the contents led to the vision being lost. Olson was a writer and totally embraced the telling. He was a prolific letter writer, totally embracing the exchange. I think he would have embraced a media like twitter as well. “You can say what ever is part of what is sought to be done.”
It’s a creative dilemma, and one I’ve experienced. In all the enthusiam of a new vision, I’ve spent all the energy load that comes with the vision shouting from the mountain “”I’ve got a vision, I’ve got a vision” onyl to find down the road, that spilling of the contents led to the vision being lost. Olson was a writer and totally embraced the telling. He was a prolific letter writer, totally embracing the exchange. I think he would have embraced a media like twitter as well.

]]> By: Julie http://catskillcottageseed.com/2008/11/13/firing-intention/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Julie Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:24:08 +0000 http://catskillcottageseed.com/?p=869#comment-138 like others will need to re-read to truly understand this. But often I've explained an intent to others and then for some reason its not happened and I feel shamefaced. Its sometimes as if talking about it 'hexes' it somehow, dilutes the energy towards creating the happening? I don't know.. Or of course in telling before hand it allows others to disuade or influence so therefore its not truly your own idea. Perhaps that's why the ritual needs to be a solitary and personal one. How would the energy differ if a group of hunters made the shape together? . I agree that sometimes its better to get on with it and tell it afterwards - although where does that leave the likes of Twitter or blogs? Julie x like others will need to re-read to truly understand this. But often I’ve explained an intent to others and then for some reason its not happened and I feel shamefaced. Its sometimes as if talking about it ‘hexes’ it somehow, dilutes the energy towards creating the happening? I don’t know.. Or of course in telling before hand it allows others to disuade or influence so therefore its not truly your own idea. Perhaps that’s why the ritual needs to be a solitary and personal one. How would the energy differ if a group of hunters made the shape together?

. I agree that sometimes its better to get on with it and tell it afterwards – although where does that leave the likes of Twitter or blogs?

Julie
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]]> By: Richard Reeve http://catskillcottageseed.com/2008/11/13/firing-intention/comment-page-1/#comment-137 Richard Reeve Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:02:09 +0000 http://catskillcottageseed.com/?p=869#comment-137 Hey Jeb, Olson's point gets at the creative dilemma of being "put in shape for action." The essay is is focused on that third of the pragmatic triad thought/belief/action. Note : you can say that which is part of the action...so if part of the action is building consensus, then so be it. What he's getting at is the amount of energy that can get wasted trying to convince others (and his point would boomerang back to trying to convince ourselves) of our vision. That which is about goes around with out grabbing hold of the thing... Working backwards: the personal ritual makes the higher self the witness to the vision, and the point would be that is the only audience needed if our 'belief' is solid. All the attempts at sorting things out, the convincing is the wrestling that occurs with 'thought' trying to find it's certainty. So thought/belief/action...the above all about action. I can shoot you a copy of the entire essay. Olson is dense, a poet's poet, but the gems to be found will not disappoint. Jesse, I've been working out of a posture from the Celtic Myths lately, where Queen Mauve tests the future King's. She will grant the three deepest desires of their heart, but only if they can speak them in the next breath they take. Living in a manner where our intention is always prepared to speak that answer has been most fruitful for my practice, in fact, it's changed my life in considerable ways. It took me a few months to polish my intent, but I got there... Hey Jeb,
Olson’s point gets at the creative dilemma of being “put in shape for action.” The essay is is focused on that third of the pragmatic triad thought/belief/action. Note : you can say that which is part of the action…so if part of the action is building consensus, then so be it. What he’s getting at is the amount of energy that can get wasted trying to convince others (and his point would boomerang back to trying to convince ourselves) of our vision. That which is about goes around with out grabbing hold of the thing…
Working backwards: the personal ritual makes the higher self the witness to the vision, and the point would be that is the only audience needed if our ‘belief’ is solid. All the attempts at sorting things out, the convincing is the wrestling that occurs with ‘thought’ trying to find it’s certainty. So thought/belief/action…the above all about action. I can shoot you a copy of the entire essay. Olson is dense, a poet’s poet, but the gems to be found will not disappoint.

Jesse,
I’ve been working out of a posture from the Celtic Myths lately, where Queen Mauve tests the future King’s. She will grant the three deepest desires of their heart, but only if they can speak them in the next breath they take. Living in a manner where our intention is always prepared to speak that answer has been most fruitful for my practice, in fact, it’s changed my life in considerable ways. It took me a few months to polish my intent, but I got there…

]]> By: Jesse Luna http://catskillcottageseed.com/2008/11/13/firing-intention/comment-page-1/#comment-136 Jesse Luna Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:35 +0000 http://catskillcottageseed.com/?p=869#comment-136 Love this! It's about intention and action. I often ask myself why I don't accomplish certain outcomes and that answer is usually "because I never had that outcome as an intention." Also love the ritual of visualization. Much easier and more effective than doing a 15 page business plan! Love this! It’s about intention and action. I often ask myself why I don’t accomplish certain outcomes and that answer is usually “because I never had that outcome as an intention.”

Also love the ritual of visualization. Much easier and more effective than doing a 15 page business plan!

]]> By: jeb http://catskillcottageseed.com/2008/11/13/firing-intention/comment-page-1/#comment-135 jeb Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:04:37 +0000 http://catskillcottageseed.com/?p=869#comment-135 richard, am i interpreting the above correctly by taking this away - that our success in any endeavor is lessened (the likelihood for it, that is) if we first tell the world (or some person in it) what we are about to do? is this because the action, then, becomes less about doing what needs to be done and more about trying to get other people's approval/admiration/envy because of the action we're considering? richard, am i interpreting the above correctly by taking this away – that our success in any endeavor is lessened (the likelihood for it, that is) if we first tell the world (or some person in it) what we are about to do?

is this because the action, then, becomes less about doing what needs to be done and more about trying to get other people’s approval/admiration/envy because of the action we’re considering?

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