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		<title>By: Richard Reeve</title>
		<link>http://catskillcottageseed.com/2009/03/08/more-fences-more-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-5470</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Reeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Adriel,
I&#039;m in &quot;Awe&quot; of the application.  Politics is very much theater.  I&#039;m not convinced that the economy is though (except perhaps the engine that is entertainment explicitly, but even there it&#039;s just viable business).  As resources continue to evaporate faster than water on a black board in the middle of summer, my sense is global suffering will get ratcheted up in an epic manner.  Part of the bizarre quandary America faces in reconciling its own myth as this plays out can be seen in the following: we simultaneously sow war and destruction while believing we are guardians of all, you know, the huddled masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Adriel,<br />
I&#8217;m in &#8220;Awe&#8221; of the application.  Politics is very much theater.  I&#8217;m not convinced that the economy is though (except perhaps the engine that is entertainment explicitly, but even there it&#8217;s just viable business).  As resources continue to evaporate faster than water on a black board in the middle of summer, my sense is global suffering will get ratcheted up in an epic manner.  Part of the bizarre quandary America faces in reconciling its own myth as this plays out can be seen in the following: we simultaneously sow war and destruction while believing we are guardians of all, you know, the huddled masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Reeve</title>
		<link>http://catskillcottageseed.com/2009/03/08/more-fences-more-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-5468</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Reeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt, great of you to weigh in...
So imagine Soros, who said a few weeks back is right when he says he see no bottom.  The implication is that it drops all the way to zero.  Then we will see necessity birth something few of us have dared to imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt, great of you to weigh in&#8230;<br />
So imagine Soros, who said a few weeks back is right when he says he see no bottom.  The implication is that it drops all the way to zero.  Then we will see necessity birth something few of us have dared to imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriel Hampton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriel Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was reading &quot;Shock Doctine&quot; recently. Too grim to occupy too much off my time, but it did get me thinking. We need to use this economic shock to enact radical populist reform in the same was Friedmanites/Neocons have done in the past to take away the rights of peoples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was reading &#8220;Shock Doctine&#8221; recently. Too grim to occupy too much off my time, but it did get me thinking. We need to use this economic shock to enact radical populist reform in the same was Friedmanites/Neocons have done in the past to take away the rights of peoples.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Searles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Searles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.. It&#039;s a weird thing.. society being so complex.. seems to me the strata that&#039;s trying to hit the reset is just the folks whom were benefiting from it most.. better to go out with a whimper then hear the heretic&#039;s cry? 

I do think there&#039;s a lot of movement though.. towards building the new thing.. beneath the radar of traditional media.. I mean I&#039;m having so many conversations like this..

I guess its just that heros wouldn&#039;t be heros if they were the norm? 

The value of safety.. provided by our cages.. I guess its just a question of how the new values might spread through this collective medium.. that the ecology might shift.. so that the genes that spread are of the new order.. 

And you know.. at least we have a little heat moving that way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.. It&#8217;s a weird thing.. society being so complex.. seems to me the strata that&#8217;s trying to hit the reset is just the folks whom were benefiting from it most.. better to go out with a whimper then hear the heretic&#8217;s cry? </p>
<p>I do think there&#8217;s a lot of movement though.. towards building the new thing.. beneath the radar of traditional media.. I mean I&#8217;m having so many conversations like this..</p>
<p>I guess its just that heros wouldn&#8217;t be heros if they were the norm? </p>
<p>The value of safety.. provided by our cages.. I guess its just a question of how the new values might spread through this collective medium.. that the ecology might shift.. so that the genes that spread are of the new order.. </p>
<p>And you know.. at least we have a little heat moving that way?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Reeve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Reeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tex,
sometimes we just need to let go...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tex,<br />
sometimes we just need to let go&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Screwed Up Texan</title>
		<link>http://catskillcottageseed.com/2009/03/08/more-fences-more-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-5460</link>
		<dc:creator>Screwed Up Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent insight Richard and I dont think I could have put it any better myself. To me, finding a solution seems so supercomplex and daunting.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Screwed Up Texan´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.screweduptexan.com/2009/03/shed-shell-of-shame.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shed the Shell of Shame&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent insight Richard and I dont think I could have put it any better myself. To me, finding a solution seems so supercomplex and daunting.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Screwed Up Texan´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.screweduptexan.com/2009/03/shed-shell-of-shame.html" rel="nofollow">Shed the Shell of Shame</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Reeve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Reeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jay, My sense is that no wall is about sight, but an action that flows from a fundamental decision to no longer look.   Even the lovely stone walls that remain in the woods throughout the northeast...all the effort was to make it clear that this was mine...not yours, so don&#039;t bother trying to come tell me otherwise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jay, My sense is that no wall is about sight, but an action that flows from a fundamental decision to no longer look.   Even the lovely stone walls that remain in the woods throughout the northeast&#8230;all the effort was to make it clear that this was mine&#8230;not yours, so don&#8217;t bother trying to come tell me otherwise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Reeve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Reeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron, my favorite fence/wall appears in Midsummer&#039;s Night Dream when one of the players is the wall and he separates his fingers creating a chink for the lovers to whisper through...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron, my favorite fence/wall appears in Midsummer&#8217;s Night Dream when one of the players is the wall and he separates his fingers creating a chink for the lovers to whisper through&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hopefully the fences we build from now on will have bigger holes for us to see more clearly in the future!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jay´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Jayfrawleycom/~3/523950250/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Putting a Bright Light on the Shadow- An Intro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hopefully the fences we build from now on will have bigger holes for us to see more clearly in the future!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jay´s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Jayfrawleycom/~3/523950250/" rel="nofollow">Putting a Bright Light on the Shadow- An Intro</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Gaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and Perspective requires engagement --stepping up to the lectern. The nature and symbology of a fence: it is designed to hold different potentials on each side -- economic status, skin color, political and ideological perspective. A fence can contain tremendous energy. Separating the wanted from the unwanted. And, it is designed to do that in a detached way. Once the fence is built it can be ignored and left to do its work. We do not have to think about that fence containing that terrible energy.

Of course, there is high-tech electronic surveillance. However, that is a different kind of fence and perhaps a different post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and Perspective requires engagement &#8211;stepping up to the lectern. The nature and symbology of a fence: it is designed to hold different potentials on each side &#8212; economic status, skin color, political and ideological perspective. A fence can contain tremendous energy. Separating the wanted from the unwanted. And, it is designed to do that in a detached way. Once the fence is built it can be ignored and left to do its work. We do not have to think about that fence containing that terrible energy.</p>
<p>Of course, there is high-tech electronic surveillance. However, that is a different kind of fence and perhaps a different post.</p>
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