I’m totally with you on how experience builds through the ages. To it, I’d just like to add the hair raising encounters with the archetypal energy, an experience Jung had plenty of times, as another axis where the numinous intersects the social plane.

Err, let me take a swing at a little of this.

Jung said something to the effect that.. the collective unconscious and archetypes are.. expressions of biology on consciousness.. but a little more complex then that.. so we are talking about.. well like instincts with personality, maybe?

Biology then.. is like.. well genetic history.. like how in the womb we go through these changes that seem like a history lesson in human evolution..

In terms of.. the scale of a life time.. who we are today.. what we are doing.. that kinda builds the foundations to support who we are tomorrow.. like rings in a tree.. the patterns of it.. and so the history of human evolution.. is imprinted in the same way in our biology.. or something sorta like that.

In terms of self preservation.. and Jung was onto this.. often when we talk Darwin we are talking a kind of popular idea of evolution.. which is perhaps different then it actually is.. and perhaps even our best ideas of such things.. are little different then they actually are.. but..

Humans are social creatures.. our individual survival is very often linked to the survival of the group.. so there’s a survival value to a lot of things we might not normally think of as having survival value.. and then there’s the goal of passing genes on and all that..

So I think that’s a helpful way of thinking of some of that.

Back to archetypes.. there’s also a number of things that are constants in the human experience… mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, sisters, brothers.. etc.

To some extent we are talking about a kind of projection.. like.. we have this complex of associations surrounding Possums.. and you know.. particularly if you’re living in sorta ancient hunter gatherer times.. a close study of the creatures in the echo system you share.. make some sense.. and then onto the Possum we project this part of our instinct system.. onto that.. well thing we are studying that has a pattern that.. lets say in the relationships that make up that pattern.. are kinda the same.

So the arising mythological system is a language that speaks both inwardly and outwardly.. and is about how we relate to our own nature and the world.. And particularly in these earlier hunter gatherer systems.. the Possum is holy.. nature is.. etc

There’s also this sense that we all share the same biology.. to very high degree.. and who we are as individuals.. and for that matter as a group, is an actualization of a portion of that biology.. and there’s this sense that in a mysterious sorta way.. we are one.. in that.. that actualization is sorta like.. more superficial to our totality. And its been said that when we risk our lives to save the other.. it is a realization that the other and us are one.. that we NEED to do this..

On a certain level all this stuff is amazingly complex.. I mean how we render all these issues, and questions, and whatever.. into a rational sorta verifiable form that makes sense to our modern sensibility.. but its actually a good deal simpler in a mythological system.. and Jung is sorta the builder of the bridge between these worlds

Or that’s my take on it anyway.. hope that casts more light then shadow

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If so, would this not be psychosis?

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Yes I believe matter is energy. Would you say then that thought is another kind/form of energy separate from the psyche?

What do you think of astral thoughts? What is their purpose?

On another note, are you familiar with Helena Blavatsky’s magnum opus? I am curious what your “thoughts” (pun intended) are on it if you have.

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