The Objective Psyche

Hmm..

Ok, well that's complicated! I'm going to have to think about how to respond..

I think.. well you have the Freudian civilization and its discontents thing: What we sacrifice of our selves to be a part of society... What we have to sacrifice I would suggest is a combination of power relationship and social needs. This inherited value system then frames our conception of reality... and creates the labyrinth. The problem is one of a hero's adventure of going into that labyrinth to rescue those parts of our potential needed for the adventure ahead.

When I think of answer to job I think about the relationship between human and eternal values... and I think what we are dealing here is clearly human values.

I'm at least feeling like it's a very.. we must quit the world somehow to do it.. or go on a labyrinth quest.. That one needs to get out of the usual consensus notion of reality... And I think this is tricky given it's nature of being interwoven with the existing sorta economic realities... In the I need a job to survive sense.. and the job forces me into a certain box which has this set of ramifications on how I experience reality / how the job frames it.

But I'm not really sure about the direction I'm driving in's relationship to where your driving. From a lot of your recent posts it sounds like you're driving towards the transcendent function sorta stuff.. Buddha at the Bogia Tree.. search for the philosophers stone.. which.. is a little different from how we might go about this on a collective level, I'm thinking?

I'm thinking that the systemic forces are already pointing us in the right direction and its basically up to us in our participation with the unfolding.. that's the key.

I see you point...I guess I was simply pointing out that the authority
issue is as much an issue in our relationship to the \"Self\" (Jung's

def.) As it is to the cultural demands...

Richard

In the train of thought I was on the authority of the self is pushing towards this change, but its civilization that has said this is not to be cultivated.. It reminds me quite a bit of racism.. In a society where black people aren't allowed to be educated it's a lot easier to think black people are inferior. So when we look at ether parts of the self, or people in the world / culture / around us.. whom are in some sense going with this reality, because we are seeing less maturated examples then what our society is really supporting the cultivation of.. we think of it as an inferior direction.

I think of it very much like the Sealed Vassel where this stuff becomes harder to say, and harder to see.. My feeling is that what we need is a heroic adventure where someone, or many of us, cultivate this stuff to such a degree that we are like exemplars.. so that the life patterns would then be more easily cultivated...

It seems like such a mammoth project to.. that our society is soooo swung in this other direction.. that it would take a number of generations for this kind of.. social-psycho migration to happen... or to reach its heights anyway.

I think maybe what I was thinking about in relationship to the self's authority and this problem was.. well what I got into race studies and like.. Cornel West and stuff.. and what was required for that transformation.

lol, I think anyway.. These aren't all terribly well thought out ideas.. just whatever comes to me in the moment so..

I love how you coined psycho-migration...that's spot on.

you know I think its sorta the natural order, almost like a hydraulic esk model of the psyche, that we wish to wake up to this, and we see this wish expressed expressing its self in manyfold ways throughout our culture.. The trouble, it seems to be, is the inhibiting force of authority.

We are, of course, living in times where what qualifies as authority is shifting... the dawning of a new revolutionary age. I believe what you are talking about WILL happen as a result... and it may not be something we have to actually will..

It does seem rather "short trip to another day" esk?

...my sense on this one, much like the map laid out in "Answer to Job", the authority is not solely an issue of the externals...

I took out the blinders a couple of years ago...and will
never turn them off again..ill just close my eyes every day to
Imagine more..and hopefully the sunshine of the day will
Remind me and lead me to where my imagination took me.

In many ways we venture alone during what, if the vision being proposed does emerge, will be seen as dark ages...Glad to know you venture none the less...

What I will look in hindsight as the dark ages is really what some refer to as the dark night of the soul. I have been able to see the beauty in discovering my true self, I suppose you could say..my soul which can now emerge shining brightly to express what gifts lay hidden in the dark recesses. As I emerge, my heart pulses..excited..yet nervous of the vulnerability of only operating from this true heart, yet courageous that it is the only path I can follow. Thank you for sharing your wisdom here and your peaceful pictures on twitter which remind me that peace and wisdom are truly timeless and last forever.

Oh boy, that's a big order Richard. But I'm up for the challenge. I need the help, and I'm willing to offer it.

Hey Jeb,
It's funny how the tallest orders are fundementally simple.